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STX Lacrosse/WSL Top 25

FINAL 2009 WSL TOP 25

1. Highland Park (TX): 18-1
Texas High School Lacrosse League Division I state champion for second straight season

2. Coronado (CA): 21-2
CIF-San Diego Section champion for first time in school history

3. St. Ignatius Prep (CA): 21-1
If the CIF-Central Coast Section ever starts a playoff system, get ready to watch the Wildcats 10-peat

4. Arapahoe (CO): 16-3
Colorado High School Activities Association state champion for first time in school history

5. Oregon Episcopal School (OR) 20-0
Oregon High School Lacrosse Association state champion

6. St. Mark’s (TX): 17-4
Texas High School Lacrosse League Division I finalist for second time in last three years

7. Mullen (CO): 15-3
Colorado High School Activities Association state finalist

8. Issaquah (WA): 19-2
Washington High School Boys Lacrosse Association Division I state champion for second straight season

9. Mercer Island (WA): 18-5
Washington High School Boys Lacrosse Association Division I state finalist

10. Regis Jesuit (CO): 11-6
Colorado High School Activities Association state semifinalist

11. La Costa Canyon (CA): 17-4
CIF-San Diego Section runner-up for fourth time

12. Lincoln (OR): 19-5
Oregon High School Lacrosse Association state finalist

13. Cherry Creek (CO): 11-7
Colorado High School Activities Association state semifinalist

14. Kent Denver (CO): 12-3
Colorado High School Activities Association state quarterfinalist  

15. Minnetonka (MN): 18-0
Minnesota State High School League state champion

16. Heritage (CO): 13-2
Colorado High School Activities Association state quarterfinalist  

17. De La Salle (CA): 17-4
CIF-North Coast Section champion for second time in three seasons

18. Foothill-Orange County: 21-5
CIF-Southern Section champion for third straight season

19. Dallas Episcopal (TX): 13-6
Texas High School Lacrosse League North District Division I semifinalist 

20. Dallas Jesuit (TX): 14-6
Texas High School Lacrosse League North District Division I semifinalist 

21. Danville Monte Vista (CA): 16-7
CIF-North Coast Section runner-up

22. Bonanza (NV): 15-5
Southern Nevada Lacrosse Association champion for third straight season

23. Bainbridge Island (WA): 14-4
Washington High School Boys Lacrosse Association Division I state semifinalist

24. Bountiful (UT): 15-3
Utah High School Lacrosse League Division A state champion for second straight season

25. Chaparral (AZ): 15-1
Arizona Youth Lacrosse League Division I state champion for sixth time since 1999

bountiful 24???

didnt bountiful just come down to AZ and loose like 17-2 to Chandler.  why are they so high up then?

No Missouri Teams?

Didn't an elite team of Rockhurst guys go to Denver over new years and beat a lot of teams? I heard they beat Regis.

rb

rancho bernardo should be ranked in the top 25

 

Not true

There is a bridge from Bainbridge to - umm - well, to the Kitsap Peninsula. Does that count?  :)

 

(replying to the post below this...)

Nice article about the "other" island in MCLA mag

Okay, now we know Bainbridge is a real island (as opposed to that other one sandwhiched mid-way between downtown Seattle and Microsoft Moneyland, and the only thing that runs through it is not a river but a huge 8-lane freeway).

:)

Bridges vs. Ferries

Your just jealous because Mercer has bridges and you have to wait in line at the ferry whenever you want to go anywhere! :)

Lincoln Deserves Top 10

 Lincoln beat Issaquah by two and only lost to mercer by one. At the end of the season when mercer didn't have Shields lincoln would easily beat mercer. Lincoln deserves top 10 ranking.

That's funny.

Couldn't you say the same thing about Lincoln without Baum?

Lincoln great with Baum

Indeed, Lincoln had a great team last year.  I think they should have been in the top 10 also.  Issaquah totally dominated Mercer in the state final and it only came down to 1 goal in the end because Issy was so far ahead, they didn't know what to do.  I'd rank Mercer top 10 with Shields, but without him, they wouldn't even have made the semi-finals in WA. Even with him, they barely slipped by BI in double-overtime, and that was a home game for MI.

Back to Lincoln, we'll see how good they are next year without Baum. And Mercer without Shields, for that matter  :)

 

Seriously?

"Back to Lincoln, we'll see how good they are next year without Baum. And Mercer without Shields, for that matter :)"

Or Bainbridge without Stevenson. We all know he was the only reason they were able to do anything last year. Don't forget that Snow (BI's AA) only had 1 goal against Mercer.

As for not making the semi-finals without Shields, are you serious? Mercer beat Curtis 19-4 in the semi-final last year, and that was without Shields (while Curtis did have AA Landon Carr).

Yes but

Without Shields during the regular season, MI would have lost to both Issy and BI easily, during the regular season. Entering as the third or fourth seed, they would have played a higher seed in the semi's, thus an away game. 

 

What?

You're contradicting yourself. First you said that MI would never have made the semi-finals without Daniel Shields, now you're saying that they would have entered as third or fourth seed, thus being IN the semi-finals.

 

Either way, don't you realize that Daniels Shields never played defense? And don't you remember that MI's DEFENSE held Bainbridge to 6 goals in the regular season, and held Issaquah to 4 goals in the regular season? Now factor in that MI's offense scored 19 goals against Curtis (by the third quarter) without Daniel Shields.

 

Your argument about having or not having Daniel in the regular season is as useless as me arguing that Bainbridge would not have made the semi's without Stevenson (which they wouldn't have, by the way).

Mercer Island - Top 10

My bet is that Mercer will continue to dominate without Shields.

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Washington Lacrosse

I think we need to make a case for the boys up in the PNW.

I know that everyone here, most of us being high schoolers, loves to root for teams from their respective state, and I understand that. I also understand when people aregue about CA/TX/CO and who has the most skill, because you are in such close proximity and rivalry, since most people who post online arent from WA or ORE. I would like to rep the PNW here and make a case.

 

Although the overall skill in CA/CO/TX is higher than WA or ORE, there are still teams in both states that would hold their own against virtually any team in the West Coast power 3 states. You look at Oregon and see some great teams in OES and Lincoln, Lincoln who happens to be graduating a D1 college player with the best shooting and size combination I have EVER seen from a HS player, Peter Baum. You move up to Washington, and you see about 7  to 9 players who are All American quality (Yes I know every state has the AA quality) jammed into 4 teams, with Sam Snow, Dugan McDermott, and Bryce Stevenson from Bainbridge, Danny Shields from Mercer Island, Connor McClain from Issaquah and Landon Carr from Curtis to name the majority. All of these kids excell at their position, and sadly for PNW lacrosse they are all graduating, but they show super skill and can compete on any level on the west coast highschool wise. Sam Snow is going to Fairfield and playing in the UU National Showcase, and you will see how much of a force he can be.

 

I guess what im saying is, dont count out the PNW, because the Top 3 from WA in BI, MI and Issy, and the top 2 in ORE with OEs and Lincoln could bombarde a majority of teams in CA CO and TX.

 

Best corner is the top left corner.

why so much hate

texas lacrosse is getting raw, everyone knew it would happen

The Scores Game

Can't rationally be played.  And look somewhere where a poll is used for the nation top 25, not laxpower, because laxpower is all based on formulas and scores.  That being said, if I was going to play the scores game, St. Mary Annapolis is ranked #8 on insidelacrosse (they beat HP by 9, in Texas), and La Salle College HS is ranked #9 (Arapahoe only lost to them by 2, in Pennsylvania).  SMA lost to Gilman 12-11 in regulation, and La Salle lost to Gilman 8-7 in ot.  So, Arapahoe is OBVIOUSLY 8 goals better than HP.

 

Note the sarcasm, just trying to prove the point that any comparisons beyond head to head competition are just complete and total speculations.

HP beats Arapahoe by

FIVE

National Strength of Schedule Rankings: TOP 6 in CA and TX

TX:  HP  61,  Jesuit 130, ESD 205, St Marks 302, Woodlands 321, ST Johns 614

CA:  LCC 104, St I 160, De La 306, Coranodo 308, Armdor 436, CDM 1092

At every spot TX has a tougher SOS than CA.  So I was wrong, TX has the upper hand....hahahaha

haha how and why is amador and cdm in ur top 6?

check it out. Cali is Coronado, SI, LCC, De La Salle, Foothill OC, then Danville Monte Vista. You cant just pick and chose what california teams you want to use. use our best teams to represent us.

CO?

Again, you conveniently leave out Colorado to make your point.

 

Cherry Creek 47, Mullen 96, Kent 136, Fort Collins 177, Mountain Vista 242, Arapahoe 255

 

This also does not take into account Kent's scrimmages versus Gilman (Laxpower #8) and Deerfield (#7).

I don't think the

I don't think the SOS argument is valid either, but I didn't make the argument in the first place, I was just trying to give everyone the full picture.  In response to the Maryland fan, I don't know why you took offense to anything I said here.  In the west, teams can only take one trip over the course of a season to go play teams from other areas of the country and get better competition.  That is where a great deal of the difference in SOS's come from.  I mentioned these scrimmages because they do not affect Kent's SOS, which would have been much higher had they played real games.  Are you a little testy because some hick team from the west gave you a scare?

 

Also, as I stated below, the score of the Arapahoe/ East game was 11-2 at half, when they pulled the starters to rest for playoffs.  The number six team in Texas could not hang with them, just as the number six team in Colorado cannot hang with HP.  Foco is having an off year, and if you think that they are the best that CO has to offer, you are mistaken.

FOCO

FOCO has the 4th highest SOS in CO and is #6 in CO, and they got swept by the Top 3 teams here, and in 2 games by alot more than the score shows, they were absolute poundings.  But that doesnt sya much.  Arapohoe, #1, beats Denver East by 4 and our maybe #6 team St johns beats them by 2.  So our #6 is almost as good as your #1?? I guess SOS is hard to use because if FOCO has a 177 SOS rank but got CRUSHED by ST Marks with a 302 SOS, then what does that say.  And yes it was only 5 goals but FOCO was never in the game and HP could have easily hung 18 on them but took their foot off the pedal in the 3rd.

FOCO loses to Regis by 1, Arapohoe wins by 1 and Kent wins by 4, hate to say it but Id say HP, ST marks beat Regis by 10 easy.....

TX has the edge on both CA and CO for the first time in a long while if ever.  Maybe not by much, but they have it.  Lets see how the rest of the season pans out.

Scrimmages dont count for ANYTHING...

why do people out west hang their hats on that crap.  We play everyone and try to see whose going down to JV and whose staying up.  They dont count for a REASON.

 

CA LAX

With the exception of Highland Park, it seems to me that CA lax looks to hold the better talent.  Each of these other states have one or two REALLY great teams.  (Dont get me wrong, there are good teams everywhere) But Texas with HP, Colorado with Kent, (although Cherry and Mullen look good) It seems these states have 1-3 GOOD schools. California on the other hand has over 10 teams that can play with these schools.  SI, Coronado, LCC, De La Salle, Foothill, CDM, and many more.  (its ok to disagree, i just dont want to be cussed out via WSL posts haha I wanna hear thoughts)

Disagree

The problem is CA doesnt play ANYONE out of state so you cannot have those teams in the conversation.  So De Lasalle and CDM are out.  CDM is out also becasue they haven't played one single solid team.  We shall see how their last game goes.  LCC lost to Kent, who lost to Mullen and Creek, so who knows how good they are?  Coronado lost to WOOTTON, who doesnt play anyone good since they are in MD43.  Finally St I.  Yes they are good, beat Mullen soundly, but after that they dont play anyone.  Look at St Andrews in FL!!  How good are they?? Do we know??  They beat a .500 team in the MIAA by 5, so yes they are very good.

Tx teams are the same way, its hard to compare.  Do I feel that HP and St marks would beat Coronado and Saint I, yes.  Do you, who knows.  Do I feel Jesuit and ESD would beat De LaSalle, CDM and foothill by 5 at least, yes, do you, probably not. 

In the TOP 50 on laxpower you have 3 CO, 2 CA and 1 TX team.  Now since CO has 3 in the top 50 are they a better state in lax, no.  Arapahoe, the #1 CO team beat Denver East by 4.  The 6th ranked team in TX beat DE by 2.  I know St Marks and HP would beat St johns by 10 so what does that say about CO?  Who knows...I just dont think you can say which state is better unless they play more of the same out of state teams.  Being biased Id put our TOP 5 against any in CA.

 That is a lie. Coronado

 That is a lie. Coronado played three teams from the Maryland/DC area, preferably known as the hotbead of lacrosse. Granted they only one one of their three games, but I think that qualifies as playing SOMEONE from out of state. 

Touche'

You have a valid point.  I DEFINITLY agree CDM has played no one good at all.  Foothill OC has lost all 3 of their most challenging games (SI Cornado LCC) but can probably redeem in the playoffs against Los AL and CDM.  Foothill did however beat Bellview from Wash. So thats an out of state win (not sure how good they are) But ya, SI and Cornado would definitly have to rep CA strong to prove my point.  I just think it would be pretty sick to have the top 5 teams from each state (after season) come together for a massive tourny.  That could become an annual event and hey, who knows where that leads to.

Bellevue from WA is not good.

Bellevue from WA is not good. Hardly counts as an out of state win. They are basically made up of Cole Nordstrom and Kyle Muetzel. Thats it.

The score of the

The score of the Arapahoe/East game at half was 11-2.  They then pulled all of the starters to get the younger guys experience, as it was the last game of the regular season.  You can't use this game for comparison.

Congrats to Jordan, third

Congrats to Jordan, third team from utah to crack the top 25 this year. lax is growing quick here before long we will be caught up to the rest of the west coast

los al

should be in the top 25. they are easily good enough.

disagree

they cant beat one team on here. their schedule is light and havent played a decent team. Los Al would lose to any of these 25 teams

Loss to Cherry Creek

seals the deal of HP being #1.  Hopefully, they can get by Saint Andrews in the national rankings since St A didnt schedule one tough game this year. 

Looks like Highland Park, (TX) is new #1

Cant lose to Mullen, who lost to Arapahoe and St I, and still be #1.  HP 's only loss is to the #1 team in the country. 

St johns

How is Saint Johns ranked, they have not beaten any good team and the only good teams they have played they lost. This makes no sense.

anyway

when i started this i wasn't hating on west coast teams, but the fact that people are talking crap about mercer when they haven't faced those east coast teams. You keep referring to arapahoe and bainbridge and LCC, this was to refer to west genesse and corning east, two top 10 teams IN THE COUNTRY, not the west coast. That's the point, don't talk crap about mercer being ranked with 4 losses, when all of those teams were great from the east coast

mercer

no team from the west coast would have beaten corning east, or west genesee, and those were the first two games they played. They players didn't really stand a chance to win the next two with the schedule they had (waking up at 6 am). So yes Mercer should be where they are in the rankings. They went to play the best, knowing they could lose, and probably would, but to get better, they didn't travel to places like georgia, and Utah, where teams from the west go to play decent teams, if that. looks like the trip helped though they beat seattle prep 19-0..... they aren't allowed to score more than that

Really?

No one in the west could beat West Genny? Lets take a look at this- West Genesee lost to Lasalle College HS 7-3 in New York. Arapahoe lost to Lasalle 9-7 in Philly. Not only was it a closer game, Arapahoe was the team that travelled. From there, Kent beat Arapahoe, and Regis gave them a game. LCC took Kent to the wire, and lost a tight game to Creek. St. Iggy's and Cornado both beat LCC. I would also throw in Mullen, Heritage, and the top Texas teams. I'm not saying all of these teams would beat West Genesse, but they at least give them a game. Go back to your nice Seattle mansion, play your bushleague Washington lax, and keep your stupid comments to yourself.

Think before you speak.

Arapahoe almost lost to Bainbridge Island last year when they came to Seattle (11-9), they only pulled it out in the last minutes of the game. And LCC has lost to several Northwest teams, including Mercer Island. Anything goes when you're traveling that far, especially when your playing 4 games in 5 days. P.S. What state are you from moron!?

Shot Down

Blax stole all of my points. And I am clearly from Colorado, I don't think it was that hard to figure out, but apparently so.

"lax28isstupid" is stupid

"Arapahoe almost lost to Bainbridge Island last year when they came to Seattle (11-9), they only pulled it out in the last minutes of the game." True.... but the key word in that sentence is "ALMOST". That was also Arapahoe's 3rd game in 2 days, having beaten some team from Oregon earlier that day, and beating Bellevue the night before. And Arapahoe had a down year last year for the record. Another thing, that was last year, this is this year. LCC hasn't lost to any northwest teams this year. They haven't played any, but to be honest, if a team plays Kent to that close of a game, they have skill and there is no doubt in my mind LCC would win that game

"blax is stupid" Oh im so mature...

There is no reason to flaunt your massive ignorance on the internet for all to see. There are good teams everywhere, including Washington.

 

I can tell you this: Issaquah, Mercer and Bainbridge from WA could be in the top half of any CA or CO or NV league every single year barring any season-ending injuries to AAs, or the starting goalies. I'd also like to enlighten you to the fact that Mercer, who lost to West Genessee by 10 points AT West Genny after traveling thousands of miles to get there, sleep one night while still functioning on PST, is an extreme accomplishment. West Gennessee is the premier high school program of this nation, and I can guarentee you than 99% of California or Colorado or Nevada, even other WA teams would have lost by 20 on a good day.

 

Also, I'd like to alert you to the fact that BI lost to St. Ignatius last year or the year before by about 9. BI had more groundballs AND shots, just failed to hit the cage.

 

So please, take back your ignorance before I can swipe it and put it on eBay. You sound like a fool.

mercer

PWNED!!!!!!

CA vs TX

Coronado just lost to WOOTTON?!?! Didnt Coronado beat St I??? Well that puts TX above CA this year. HP and St Marks would beat Wootton by 5.

Centennial isn't very good

Centennial is not even a good team. #3 Team from Oregon (sunset) beat them 10-3 in Salt Lake City tournament. Sunset also beat Bainbridge 4-3, but Bainbridge also beat Sunset 9-3 the first day. But that isnt my point, my point is that Centennial only has that long streak because they play terrible idaho teams.

Ummmmm... Corando just lost

Ummmmm... Corando just lost to WOOTTON. HP, ST Marks, ESD, Jesuit would beat wootton by 5-9 goals. Guess CA ball is alittle behind TX ball this year.

This week's rankings are a

This week's rankings are a little bit delayed, because the Editor had to actually get some sleep. Will be posted by this afternoon.

your an idiot

your an idiot. we watched film of si vs mullen and u only have one decent player. and although coronado won, si is definetly a better team. maybe coronado should play si in norcal when they havent played another game less than 24 hours before

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